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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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why do people willingly use mastodon with its fucking garbage way to show replies and threads
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raf @raf@ak.kawen.space
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@jeder "it's mastodon networkkk, it's twitter but cooler and free"
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@raf literally twitter has a better way to show replies, there's no excuse for this
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kuna @kuna@social.hollow.capital
3y
@jeder mastodon itself is one thing, but clients that use masto api flatten everything even when accessing a backend that understands threads (such as when viewing an akkoma account through tusky)
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@kuna yeah so i think that's just inherent to mastodon and making people just do whatever official frontend does
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@kuna though i think akkoma/pleroma-fe could also benefit from organising the replies, like they are halfway there with recognising what is a reply to what
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kuna @kuna@social.hollow.capital
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@jeder Now that I think of it, it should be possible to piece together a tree of statuses by using "GET /api/v1/statuses/:id/context", but the frontends don't do that. Part of the problem might be that the masto api spams lots of info pointlessly (like full account info with bio for every status), and people might want to avoid making too many requests for this reason.

docs.joinmastodon.org/methods/statuses/#context
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@kuna yeah i don't get why both masto and misskey apis don't give just enough info, and instead are so stupidly verbose
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Roni Laukkarinen @rolle@mementomori.social
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@jeder Because.
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@rolle like there's no reason for mastodon to not do stuff like this over whatever this is from the second screen
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Roni Laukkarinen @rolle@mementomori.social
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@jeder I don't see a problem with that. There's a very good reasoning behind why the threads are not indented. I personally don't like that narrower space. See the issue: github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/19570

There are many alternative UIs available, but I prefer the current Mastodon UI over all of the others. Mastodon is polished.
@elk@m.webtoo.ls is quite nice UI-wise.

FoundKey, Misskey, Akkoma and other similar have a horrible UI! Inconsistency in font sizes, too big paddings, too big emojis etc... lots of things wrong and all over the place. As a front end guy I simply cannot live with things in your screenshots and stuff like this:
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@rolle @elk@m.webtoo.ls i don't care about UI, i care about UX in which misskey/foundkey is like leagues higher over mastodon, if you can't deal with readability of stuff like threads then i think you shouldn't touch it at all
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Roni Laukkarinen @rolle@mementomori.social
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@jeder It's weird to say "I don't care about UI" and "I care about UX" in the same sentence. It's like saying "I don't care about food but I care about eating" or "I don't care animals I care pets", makes no sense.

It is very opinionated but UI + UX combined are superior in Mastodon. Mastodon is literally the most readable UI wise I have seen yet.
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@rolle maybe for you it is, but for me it's even worse than twitter, so like, you know, mastodon is "supposed to be better than twitter" in this regard or whatever, but when SORTING A FUCKING THREAD is too hard for our website boy then maybe it's not so good
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Roni Laukkarinen @rolle@mementomori.social
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@jeder Chill. Please be a bit less angry, it helps nobody.

I used Twitter for 15 years. Mastodon has been worthwile more than those years combined during only 3 and a half months here.

Have an amazing day!
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Otaku Hot Girl 🍙💅🏿 @Weeble@bungle.online
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@jeder It has the better marketing and most support ​:byakuyaSip:​
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
3y
can't tell what is a reply to what
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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i am a misskey/foundkey junkie and that won't change for a long time
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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(calckey deliberately omitted)
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