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blobcatverified2 @Jain@blob.cat
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@mikoto the vista fan must be a joke right?
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Norm Mikoto @mikoto@akko.wtf
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@Jain partly
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blobcatverified2 @Jain@blob.cat
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@mikoto ​:blobcatgooglynotlikethis:​ but but but... its vista... i can accept xp or 7... but its vista
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Norm Mikoto @mikoto@akko.wtf
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@Jain it wasn't that bad, though it took some time to iron out the bugs
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Norm Mikoto @mikoto@akko.wtf
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@Jain 7 is basically vista with a new name tbh
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@mikoto @Jain yeah like it could as well be vista second edition or some shit
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Norm Mikoto @mikoto@akko.wtf
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@jeder @Jain some people call 7 "vista sp3"
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blobcatverified2 @Jain@blob.cat
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@mikoto @jeder well... when vista came out it was horrible in performance as well as noming ram. That became better tho and when 7 got released it was basically a better version of vista, i agree. but vista is still in the mind of everyone as a really bad because until 7 it has way to much issues
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Norm Mikoto @mikoto@akko.wtf
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@Jain @jeder really what happened was that computers got better within that time span, in 2007 oems were churning out systems that only just met the minimum specs with 512 MB of ram and pentium 4s. By 2009, pretty much everything was at least at the performance range of a low-mid core 2 and with at least 1 GB of ram if not 2+
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Norm Mikoto @mikoto@akko.wtf
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@Jain @jeder to be fair, microsoft was over optimistic with the minimum specs, pretending 512 mb of ram was enough for basic tasks
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blobcatverified2 @Jain@blob.cat
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@mikoto @jeder thats only part of the reason... back then xp didnt had uac which was the big thing with vista. vista was asking for higher permissions all the time, they reworked partly the uac and the use of it in 7. it had good ideas but its implementation was not made for common users.
and the uac was just one critic of windows vista
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Norm Mikoto @mikoto@akko.wtf
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@Jain @jeder yeah uac was pretty annoying in vista, though it didn't bother me all that much (maybe cause I used it for a long time tho)
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Norm Mikoto @mikoto@akko.wtf
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@Jain @jeder uac though was actually a nice security improvement over xp, and anecdotally I did get less viruses on vista compared to xp
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blobcatverified2 @Jain@blob.cat
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@mikoto @jeder oh yes i agree on that. it still was annoying since basic user settings couldnt change without asking for higher permission
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blobcatverified2 @Jain@blob.cat
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@mikoto @jeder other things i remember were bigger install size. well i guess that 7 has the same or even worse... but in general the computers were much faster when 7 got released than when vista got released...
i remember that games usually were slower in vista and it used around 2-4 more ram in comparison of a configured xp...
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princess pancake butterfly_​neofox_lesbian @natty@astolfo.social
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@mikoto @Jain @jeder My 2009 laptop came with 3 GB and it was a Celeron toaster ​:blobfoxnotlikethisgoogly:​
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Norm Mikoto @mikoto@akko.wtf
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princess pancake butterfly_​neofox_lesbian @natty@astolfo.social
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@mikoto @jeder @Jain 10 FPS Minecraft my beloved
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@natty @mikoto @Jain @jeder i had a netbook in 2011, i think i managed to run CS 1.6 on it, somehow
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princess pancake butterfly_​neofox_lesbian @natty@astolfo.social
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@instereo256 @mikoto @Jain @jeder I think my brother's Atom netbook had a slightly better GPU than mine, no idea how

But the CPU was atrocious
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@natty @mikoto @Jain @jeder Yeah it was an x86 CPU (i don't think it supported 64bit instructions as nobody would ever think you'd need more than 3GB of RAM and/or install a 64bit OS if you're using only the web browser... haha) with power consumption as closest as possible to ARM with an x86 CPU, but they were as powerful as a Pentium III (a chip as old as us)
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@natty @mikoto @Jain @jeder So like yeah it sucked but you could have 8hrs of battery life before ultra low-voltage Core CPUs
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Norm Mikoto @mikoto@akko.wtf
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@instereo256 @natty @jeder @Jain funnily enough my atom netbook does have 64 bit support, though since it only maxes at 2GB of ram it doesn't mean that much in terms of performance potential
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@mikoto @Jain @jeder also Aero effects required a DirectX 9 GPU and was graphically intensive for GPUs of the time, at least with my old Nvidia 7600GT having Aero enabled did hit in game FPS quite significantly, and that was a midrange dedicated GPU from 2005, i don't know how well it ran on PCs with only onboard Intel graphics

I'm not sure if P4 computers were still sold in 2007, there however were Pentium Ds which were two P4s glued together, and Celeron Ds (
not two P4s glued together)

Vista also loaded much more system files than XP, the system folder was over 1GB



also afaik there were big driver issues with release/pre-SP1 Vista
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system folder size correction @mikoto @Jain @jeder i was wrong about the drive usage; XP took 1GB on the system drive, Vista took around 10 (and windows 10 takes 20gb)
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princess pancake butterfly_​neofox_lesbian @natty@astolfo.social
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@mikoto @jeder @Jain I kinda wonder if release Vista is actually hungrier than release 7
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blobcatverified2 @Jain@blob.cat
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@natty @jeder @mikoto im pretty sure it was
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Norm Mikoto @mikoto@akko.wtf
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@natty @jeder @Jain it probably was, not by a lot though
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Norm Mikoto @mikoto@akko.wtf
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@natty @Jain @jeder funny thing is 10 is actually much better in super low memory situations than 7
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@mikoto @Jain i have used vista for like 6 years so yeah
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Norm Mikoto @mikoto@akko.wtf
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@jeder @Jain i used it from 2008 to 2013, when I finally upgraded to 7
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@mikoto @Jain i used it from 2009 to 2016 when i got a new pc and thus got windows 10
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