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Volpeon wvrnFlight @volpeon@is-a.wyvern.rip
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Pulling up a reply by me regarding alternative protocols to the web (i.e. something like Gemini):

You can't possibly "win" against the web if your objective is "better features" because anything is already possible on the web. You have to choose a different playing field, and I see the best chance in a protocol that's more lightweight and less flexible (to hopefully avoid the kind of invasive tracking and anti-patterns we have here), but which focuses on providing features to get rich sites up and running with little effort.

One of my ideas is based on the fact sites all have a hierarchical structure which is usually presented by a menu. Said menu is implemented by the website by rendering items as links and structuring them in submenus.
But what if instead, the protocol included a specification to define the hierarchy which the browser can use to show a menu itself? Desktop browsers can show a menu bar at the top, but on mobile it could be a hamburger menu instead -- all without CSS and viewport queries.

If we think further, what about a set of higher level components that mirror patterns we encounter on the web pretty often? Instead of a dumb image element, we could have an image list component which can be displayed as a dumb list of links by less capable browsers, and as a proper grid with thumbnails and captions by more powerful browsers. Or how about a lightbox component, something which to this day requires JavaScript on the web?

Trade flexibility with more "bang for the buck". That's the only way I can see a protocol that's supposed to be an alternative to the web gaining traction.
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender πŸ”œ eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@volpeon god i'd love something that would dumb down a website to just at most a dozen of layouts, and be also very easy and quick in use
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender πŸ”œ eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@volpeon like, i'd love to have a gallery where you can have various levels of nesting and shit, there's really no good option because it's either wasting hours on finding a proper Hugo theme, reading Hugo docs, configuring Hugo and the theme and hoping you got the config right, and then doing every single fucking page from scratch with all the paths, or wordpress, which uhhhhh
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender πŸ”œ eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@volpeon and with many hugo themes, getting the config right seems impossible
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Volpeon wvrnFlight @volpeon@is-a.wyvern.rip
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@jeder Yeah, it really gets old when you redo your website for the 5th time. ​wvrnFlat​
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@volpeon @jeder literally me, this is so annoying
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender πŸ”œ eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@volpeon like, i found a perfect theme for myself, and then got struck with the "hey i have this problem" + "oh by the way i found out why it did that, closing" because it didn't do what was described in my case, but that person had this problem
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender πŸ”œ eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@volpeon and obviously i'd rather have a proper fucking GUI editor for this
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