@kuriko counterpoint: if there's no fare gate then it's confusing how to pay for it if you're not familiar with the system case in point: yesterday we accidentally dodged a fare (sorta) on the link light rail because we didn't notice the orca reader or the line saying "fare paid zone" because we were just trying to catch the next train
@ielenia@kuriko it doesn't stop them from just making a line similar to fare gate but with normal validators instead, and some of them on the platform, or just, you know, having them inside the vehicles
@jeder@kuriko putting them on the vehicles would slow the boarding process but yeah it would have been a lot less confusing if they actually put the reader near the line for the fare paid zone
putting them on the vehicles would slow the boarding process
never seen that happen and almost all of our systems are like that, you just have a validator next to every door, and people will validate after departing
@ielenia@kuriko about all modes actually, I have seen trains with validators in Warsaw and it works well there but as I said, people usually buy their tickets way before boarding the train (or actually inside the train from the conductor if they couldn't buy it otherwise), and conductor will validate them when going through the train all of our trams have validators on board etc etc in Berlin or Vienna you have validator lines similar to fare gates but without the gates obviously, and ticket cops will just ambush them
@ielenia@kuriko yeah we don't have anything like light rail here unless I guess trams/streetcars are like that here train=heavy rail no matter if intercity of commuter and tbh this whole matter is mostly just a matter of trusting the passengers and not being greedy wankers the more authorities trust them, they go for simpler solutions like proof of payment or train conductor roaming the train checking and selling the tickets if they are a bunch of greedy wankers wanting to maximise profits, they'll go for fare gates
