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Navi blobCat_real therian @navi@catcatnya.com
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It truly is fucked that for local public transport, physical tickets cost more than digital tickets in Vienna.

Even the yearly Vienna subscription.
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Bicycle grease whiffer @lilylunatic@estrogen.network
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@navi I guess tvms and paper are a significantly larger maintenance headache than Aztec or whatever
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Navi blobCat_real therian @navi@catcatnya.com
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@lilylunatic sure but

forcing people to have phones?
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Navi blobCat_real therian @navi@catcatnya.com
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@lilylunatic print the fucking aztec on paper
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Navi blobCat_real therian @navi@catcatnya.com
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@lilylunatic and also don't add price for the cost of the goddamn paper
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Navi blobCat_real therian @navi@catcatnya.com
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@lilylunatic in fact maybe abolish local public transport tickets in total but that's beyond the scope of this
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Bicycle grease whiffer @lilylunatic@estrogen.network
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@navi There’s potentially a sociological argument for symbolic ticket fares and there are a while lot of different situations and approaches to the question of „how do we ticket tourists“. Either leaning towards attracting tourism or taxing tourism for its infrastructure use.
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 Mizukon @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@lilylunatic @navi oh yes there is
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 Mizukon @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@lilylunatic @navi in Poland whenever someone gets the idea of free buses, the network enters a freefall and it almost always happens
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Bicycle grease whiffer @lilylunatic@estrogen.network
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@jeder @navi As in - people trash the vehicles?
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 Mizukon @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@lilylunatic @navi no, there's less service and no maintenance
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Bicycle grease whiffer @lilylunatic@estrogen.network
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@jeder @navi Odd - sounds like the thing looses all prestige to be maintained
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 Mizukon @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@lilylunatic @navi yeah
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 Mizukon @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@lilylunatic @navi like, I am very much for low ticket prices but I can't really support free public transport after seeing how many polish cities deal with it
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 Mizukon @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@lilylunatic @navi maybe there's some magic way of doing it properly but I don't see it really
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Bicycle grease whiffer @lilylunatic@estrogen.network
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@jeder @navi I guess part of the way to go is subsidies for the active population- so students, kids, disabled ppl, working population
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 Mizukon @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@lilylunatic @navi yea, you could've noticed some (if not all) big polish cities are doing like, subsidised monthly/yearly tickets for working citizens if they are paying PIT taxes in that city, but I think this is very flawed on its own, because as poland doesn't know about german/czech-style way of doing multi-municipal transit authorities, commuters from outside that city can't use those despite doing pretty much the same thing as intra-city commuters (or they are changing their tax residency for this just to have that, which on the other hand is bad for their actual living place)
benefits for other groups are a common place already without this, although in very polish way, you need to have a student id on you to actually use it because fuck you
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