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Piggo ➡️ gs.rypak.cz @piggo@piggo.space
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maybe getting a new old thonkpad ​:blobupsidedown:​
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Piggo ➡️ gs.rypak.cz @piggo@piggo.space
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kind of got fed up with 1366x768 and the x230 is fine but just all broken, 2 hours of battery and could be a bit faster. I'm looking at T495
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@piggo you don't
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@piggo get t480
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@piggo t. t495 user
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Piggo ➡️ gs.rypak.cz @piggo@piggo.space
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@jeder what's bad about it?
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@piggo battery life is all over the place (i had like 5h max when it was new), and the battery itself is screwed into place, which is a downgrade over t480, hell even t490 is better than t495 because it's on intel, zen+ APUs used in t495 are just absolute horse shit
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Piggo ➡️ gs.rypak.cz @piggo@piggo.space
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@jeder is it crashy on Linux or bad performance or what's the deal with amd? I don't care for games
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@piggo it's a mix of unsupported hardware (yes, ryzen 3000 APUs are already considered unsupported by amd and so like, amdvlk 2024.q1+ will not work if you want to do games, and radv is just shit ime), and for example, linux 6.5 and iirc 6.2? did crash because of a fuckup regarding handling of the Better Than Intel Offerings™ Vega 8, Linux 6.6 does work okay, idk about 6.7 because i already went to LTS after 6.5 fuckup
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@piggo and from what i recall, zen+ APUs have just plain worse perf than intel in t480 and t490
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Piggo ➡️ gs.rypak.cz @piggo@piggo.space
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@jeder that actually doesn't sound so bad

if it's better perf than the i5 in x230 I will be satisfied, and it surely is
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@piggo and so yeah, i really think intel thinkpads are just less pain in the ass to maintain on linux
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Piggo ➡️ gs.rypak.cz @piggo@piggo.space
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@jeder I moved to amd on desktop and all problems disappeared

but sure that's a different line
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princess pancake butterfly_​neofox_lesbian @natty@astolfo.social
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@jeder @piggo We have a T480 and a Ryzen 2500U laptop

Coffee Lake seems to behave better than Zen in laptops

Less hot and faster, but probably a slightly weaker GPU
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@natty @piggo oh yeah, the heat is also quite bad on Zen+
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@natty @piggo like, i really wouldn't go amd just because you spite intel, you are trading a Just Working™ laptop for a hot and slow mess with 50% chance of constant crashes after a major kernel update
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princess pancake butterfly_​neofox_lesbian @natty@astolfo.social
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@jeder @piggo Honestly never had many crashes on Linux

On Windows though...

Laptop Ryzens started being great at 4000 sadly
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@natty @piggo just try linux 6.5 on that zen laptop if it uses vega igpu, you'll get what i mean in first two hours of using it
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@natty @piggo like, on a good day of using 6.5, i had maybe 2 crashes, on bad day i had like 10, with 5 of them happening just before display manager stage
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luna the doggie neofox_snug therian @lunareclipse@snug.moe
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@jeder @natty @piggo hmm I can only remember like a few random crashes in the entire lifespan of my laptop (it has a ryzen 7 4800H) which is about the same amount I've experienced with other OSes on different hardware before ​:neofox_melt:​
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luna the doggie neofox_snug therian @lunareclipse@snug.moe
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@jeder @natty @piggo oh wait yall are talking about older zen versions?
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Piggo ➡️ gs.rypak.cz @piggo@piggo.space
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@lunareclipse @jeder @natty this has 3500U
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Piggo ➡️ gs.rypak.cz @piggo@piggo.space
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@jeder @natty hmm... It won't be happy with my rust builds

I mean it's cheap enough to just resell it at a similar price and not think about it if it's too bad
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@piggo @natty i mean t480 will be cheaper than t495
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@piggo @natty at least here i've seen them go for around 1k pln
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@piggo @natty oh and important note about official lenovo thinkpad usb-c "docks" if you even want to get one:
forget about them, they are absolutely not worth your time, display outputs on 40AS don't even work under linux, just get a random baseus hub with hdmi output, needless to say, thunderbolt hubs don't work on t495 obviously
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Piggo ➡️ gs.rypak.cz @piggo@piggo.space
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@jeder @natty I'm gonna buy the laptop and then just whine forever about it being bad xD
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@piggo @natty that's me
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princess pancake butterfly_​neofox_lesbian @natty@astolfo.social
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@piggo @jeder real
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Piggo ➡️ gs.rypak.cz @piggo@piggo.space
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@jeder @natty so the laptop didn't look that good and it's a version with max 16G ram so I cancelled it. It's a good store where you can try it and look inside (obv not install Linux on it lol)
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@piggo @natty max 16? i have 40gb in my 8gb soldered
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Piggo ➡️ gs.rypak.cz @piggo@piggo.space
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@jeder @natty idk the guy said that. Maybe they were wrong, maybe there's variants. But you almost convinced me to not get it yesterday so that was convenient xD

if you're curious
incomputer.cz
I'm looking for ~14" min 1080p that isn't crap. USB-A, rj45, WiFi, BT. It sounds like a simple enough requirement, but there isn't that much choice
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@piggo @natty yeah so t480
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@piggo @natty although all of them there have 1366x768
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Piggo ➡️ gs.rypak.cz @piggo@piggo.space
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@jeder @natty yeah that's a no, it's not 2010 anymore
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Piggo ➡️ gs.rypak.cz @piggo@piggo.space
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@jeder @natty they have some cheap 460 and 470 but I need to go through them and check the specs. Don't really need that much power for what I do with it
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@piggo @natty 480s are the first ones with 4 cores
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Piggo ➡️ gs.rypak.cz @piggo@piggo.space
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@jeder @natty my x230 also has 4 cores I think? or that's just hyperthreading? or maybe I'm wrong lol
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@piggo @natty its threads, t480 has 4 cores and 8 threads, x230 has 2 cores and 4 threads
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Piggo ➡️ gs.rypak.cz @piggo@piggo.space
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@jeder @natty I should just buy a MacBook and run broken asahi on it lol
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princess pancake butterfly_​neofox_lesbian @natty@astolfo.social
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@piggo @jeder Wait

".cz"

​:neofox_woozy:​
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@natty @piggo yes yall are czech
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