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tea (old account) @tastytea@very.tastytea.de
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uuh, how do i find out how much a train trip in poland is gonna cost without being in poland. deutsche bahn is uncooperative and search engines are shit ​:blobcat_cactus:​
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@tastytea you are in for a ride
for international trains you get mobile pkp intercity app
for regio trains with or without transfers to another regio train; and intercity trains you use koleo.pl
for regio trains with transfers to intercity trains and viceversa you use bilkom.pl
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refraction verified_transgender @elexia@catcatnya.com
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@jeder @tastytea why is this so complicated? 😭
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@elexia @tastytea it goes in line with what is true about polish railways: every single thing is owned by someone else
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@elexia @tastytea like, in theory you can just go with koleo or bilkom but if you are a cheapskate, you will resort to such measures as one i explained
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refraction verified_transgender @elexia@catcatnya.com
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@jeder @tastytea I'm poor, so definitely bookmarking this for if/when I'm going to Poland
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@elexia @tastytea oh and also there's stuff like Wspólny Bilet Samorządowy(WBS) which costs around 12€ for a day with which you can use regio trains that are operated by provincial operators but not polregio, but it's even more obscure and hard to find, but apparently apps like skycash support it
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@elexia @tastytea terms of use of this obscure ticket are here in polish kolejedolnoslaskie.pl/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Warunki-taryfowe-oferty-specjalnej-Wspolny-Bilet-Samorzadowy-obowiazuje-od-01.12.2023.pdf
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@elexia @tastytea and what's fun, is that it also gives you discounts for various museums, which are listed here (also in polish) kolejedolnoslaskie.pl/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/WBS_lista-znizek_2024-02-12.pdf
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tea (old account) @tastytea@very.tastytea.de
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@jeder @elexia this is way more complicated than i thought ​:neocat_googly_shocked:​
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@tastytea @elexia ikr?
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refraction verified_transgender @elexia@catcatnya.com
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@jeder @tastytea starting to feel like my inability to understand Polish is a major impediment
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@elexia @tastytea yeah kinda ​:woozy_baa:​ all of the important stuff is that you can use trains of companies listed in 2.1, with exception of stuff listed in 3.1, and you just get it through skycash or whatever
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refraction verified_transgender @elexia@catcatnya.com
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@jeder @tastytea sounds bad
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@elexia @tastytea yeah like:
- trains are owned by train operators or provinces, which include PKP Intercity, PKP Cargo, PKP SKM w Trójmieście, SKM Warszawa, Koleje Dolnośląskie etc,
- platforms, passenger information infrastructure on platforms and station buildings, tracks, signalling is owned by PKP PLK
- overhead wires, various train petrol stations and electrical substations are owned by PGE Energetyka Kolejowa (earlier known as PKP Energetyka)
- the station buildings themselves are owned by PKP SA which is not PKP PLK, however many of them are actually owned by municipalities
- there's also this PKP TELKOL thing which is apparently engaged in maintaining overhead wires, telecommunications and dynamic passenger info??
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@elexia @tastytea but the best fun is when you enter disused railway lines, because as it turns out, some if not most of them are still owned by PKP SA
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@elexia @tastytea oh and then there's PKP Informatyka which is responsible for this mess with regard to ticket apps
did you know that they made:
- Portal Pasażera which is PKP PLK's website and app for checking timetables, delays
- Bilkom which is their own thing for checking timetables and getting tickets
- PKP.appka which is this fancy "modern" PKP SA app for displaying various info that is already possible to see on Portal Pasażera
- PKP Intercity which is, well, PKP Intercity ticketing app, in which you can get just PKP Intercity tickets
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tea (old account) @tastytea@very.tastytea.de
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@jeder thank you! 💖
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Jeder neocat_floof_googly_woozy neocat_flag_agender 🔜 eth0 @jeder@miau.jeder.pl
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@tastytea and for explanation why:
pkp intercity app because polish tickets for international trains to and from poland are notoriously cheaper than their counterparts, although that difference might not be worth it if you are transfering to/from a different train (example: netherlands-poland tickets cost 45€, while netherlands-frankfurt(oder) tickets cost 39€)
koleo because it's just nice to use
bilkom because it supports that one weird tariff that can be cheaper, although you should also check koleo because after latest changes, it's not so cheap anymore
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